Curse

Omgopolis · May 19, 2009, 06:28 PM // 18:28

I don't know about you guys, but Shadow Form really bugs me in pve. I don't have an assassin, so I can't use it to perma SF on my paragon

This is blatant profession discrimination, so I propose spreading the love and buffing Shadow Form so that everyone can use it to farm! Yay

Here's my idea:

Shadow Form: Elite Skill - For 300...225...150 seconds, you are a shadow. You cannot move, attack, or use skills, and all hostile spells that target you fail, and all attacks targeting you miss. 10e, 1s recharge, no cast time.

This also gets rid of the need to use elementalist or mesmer skills to keep SF up permanently, so you get 7 full skill slots to play around with. But more importantly, it will let everyone perma SF, while emphasizing what is important about tanking - sitting still and not doing anything. Thoughts? Comments? Praise?

Pony Slaystation · May 19, 2009, 06:33 PM // 18:33

At first, I saw this thread, and thought "no way"
Then I actually read it, and I sort of liked it. It might be a bit over-powered, but I like the idea, because it would get rid of UWSC and all of that crap that bugs me xD

The concept of your idea also makes the skill seem more realistic, not that it's really important, but as the name implies, you become a shadow. In real life, shadows cant do anything. Just saying =P

/signed

Orange Milk · May 19, 2009, 06:38 PM // 18:38

I find much failure in everything stated here.

Including everything I've said.

Because I really wasted my time posting here.

Seraphim Angel · May 19, 2009, 06:40 PM // 18:40

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Originally Posted by Omgopolis

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Shadow Form: Elite Skill - For 300...225...150 seconds, you are a shadow. You cannot move, attack, or use skills, and all hostile spells that target you fail, and all attacks targeting you miss. 10e, 1s recharge, no cast time.

So with your discription listed here how the heck would you even be able to farm when you cant do ANYHING!!!

Epic fail.

ele pl · May 19, 2009, 06:45 PM // 18:45

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Originally Posted by Seraphim Angel

So with your discription listed here how the heck would you even be able to farm when you cant do ANYHING!!!

Epic fail.

You cast farming enchant (i.e. [sliver armor]). And you put new shadow form. After its done, you are not in shadow form, cast slivers, and again!

Seraphim Angel · May 19, 2009, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by ele pl

You cast farming enchant (i.e. [sliver armor]). And you put new shadow form. After its done, you are not in shadow form, cast slivers, and again!

um how can you cast sliver armor when you are a Paragon like he is? P/A..

Loot Junkie · May 19, 2009, 06:54 PM // 18:54

This thread makes me want to poke out my eyes with a sharp chunk of obsidian. Prior to last december's skill update, SF could be perma'd by all professions, which made eles particularly potent in uwsc's. That's why anet nerfed it down a bit. There are a whole pile of elites in this game that can only be run by the primary profession they belong to. Try running Spell Breaker on anything else but a monk. It's not blatant discrimination, it's called game balance.

/notsigned

Kattar · May 19, 2009, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Assassins aren't supposed to tank. Hence the whole teleporting thing.

Omgopolis · May 19, 2009, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by Loot Junkie

it's called game balance.

SF is pretty balanced huh.

Hanging Man · May 19, 2009, 07:04 PM // 19:04

i kinda like this idea
I mean i dont think this would ever happen but it isn't the dumbest idea for SF
maybe get rid of the not moving part
i mean whats the point of any skill if you cant move?

Omgopolis · May 19, 2009, 07:15 PM // 19:15

The not moving thing is the only reason to make it last 300 to 150 seconds.

Enon · May 19, 2009, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by Katsumi

Assassins aren't supposed to tank. Hence the whole teleporting thing.

So according to you the whole skill should just be removed? Because right now I almost only see Permas tanking...

exploiter · May 19, 2009, 07:24 PM // 19:24

am i the only one seeing a sarcasm in OP's post?

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Originally Posted by Azure mist

Now stop making ideas that I would expect to hear from children with mental disabilities
Kthnx?Bai

Ps all u uwsc hatets are just made cuz u can't even roj a vale team lawl @ scrubs

ima nut made, i wuz born lawlolz @ u

Azure mist · May 19, 2009, 07:26 PM // 19:26

You can maintain SF on a para.... Dparadox + SF + Essence + Grail + candy corn + Golden eggs.

Now stop making ideas that I would expect to hear from children with mental disabilities
Kthnx?Bai

Ps all u uwsc hatets are just made cuz u can't even roj a vale team lawl @ scrubs

Kattar · May 19, 2009, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by Enon

So according to you the whole skill should just be removed? Because right now I almost only see Permas tanking...

Not necessarily. I'm just calling into question the basis for this proposal. Sins that are using SF aren't really tanking in the sense I meant it, they're solo farming. In solo farming everyone is the tank, since you're the only one there to draw aggro.

The OP talks about making it available to all professions to farm, but his suggestion wouldn't really do that, it would just turn the player into an aggro drawing rock. Doesn't really sound like farming to me, doesn't even really sound like tanking, since you're not doing anything.

Elephantaliste · May 19, 2009, 07:35 PM // 19:35

If we don't consider the fact that it is the super elite version of Obsidian Flesh and Mist Form together, even a 100% reduction of damage you deal as perma would still make it very powerfull.

A11Eur0 · May 19, 2009, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by Azure mist

You can maintain SF on a para.... Dparadox + SF + Essence + Grail + candy corn + Golden eggs.

Now stop making ideas that I would expect to hear from children with mental disabilities
Kthnx?Bai

Ps all u uwsc hatets are just made cuz u can't even roj a vale team lawl @ scrubs

You're not giving people who use these builds any support by talking like a dumbass 12 year old.

Omgopolis · May 19, 2009, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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Originally Posted by exploiter

am i the only one seeing a sarcasm in OP's post?

It seems that way. It's not a bad change though, no?

Lishy · May 19, 2009, 07:42 PM // 19:42

You have to take into consideration that enemies will use this skill and this will make Guild Wars: Factions impossible.

Shursh · May 19, 2009, 07:49 PM // 19:49

LOL you call that a buff???

your changes would completely kill SF - ok so you aggro ONE group, but in the event you are NOT interrupted while casting SF, you are unable to move, and that is the ONLY group you will be able to aggro. then you are stuck for 300 seconds aka 5 whole minutes. who in the world would want to group with you??

i'm assuming you are being sarcastic...but if not...wow...never thought i'd hear a paragon complaining about PvE...